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The Halsey Life: What’s It Like Out There Anyway?

by | 3.05.13 | 20 Comments

Halsey stop (photo via Instagram user @sfl_official)

Halsey stop (photo via Instagram user @sfl_official)

As is the nature of New York (and something we will ALWAYS be discussing), the rising rents in the once affordable neighborhoods are pushing New York newbies further out on subway lines. People are even going past *gasp* the Jefferson Street L station. OMG!!!!!

Yes, the rumors are true. As Craigslist annoyingly proves day after day, recently graduated students and transplants who are just kicking off their careers must now move as far as Halsey. But just how cool is life that far out on the line? Is it worth living in the boonies just to be off the L train and close to places like Morgan Ave where there are Yelp acclaimed bars and Zagat rated restaurants? Here’s an idea. Let’s find out!


The Breakdown

For those who have never made the trip, the L train Halsey stop is literally right on the border of Bushwick, Brooklyn and Ridgewood, Queens. These two neighborhoods paint a very different picture, as Queens is known to give you way more bang for your buck nowadays than Brooklyn or Manhattan a.k.a. the mothership of exhorbitence and ridiculousness. According to Zillow, the average rent for a three bedroom in Ridgewood is $1751, as opposed to hotspot Morgan Ave area where it’s $2,792. What da funk. No wonder mofos are searching for dwellings in other seas.

But like, is it safe out there???? I don’t know anything about Queens!!!

Ridgewood is about the same on the crime scale as Bushwick. So far in 2013, Ridgewood’s precinct has had 221 crime complaints for felonies, as opposed to Bushwick’s which has had 226, including two murders. But there has been one more reported rape in Ridgewood than Bushwick which, if you’re like me, is what you really care about. However, in other sex crimes, Bushwick outweighs Ridgewood 9 to 2 which is terrifying. But there’s many more burglaries in Ridgewood than Bushwick. So whether you feel safe or unsafe off Jefferson and DeKalb, you’ll likely feel the same off Halsey.

But let’s not focus on these stats. They’re just the crime numbers, people. And while it’s very important to know this stuff, nobody wants to talk about depressing things all day. AMIRITE?? We also want to know how it actually feels to live off Halsey. What are the apartments like? Where do the residents eat and hang out? WHY LIVE LIFE ON THE EDGE??? (And by that, I mean the Brooklyn-Queens edge).

Photo via Instagram user @premium

Photo via Instagram user @premium

So, do you like it??

Richard P. of Covert Street originally moved to Washington Heights two years ago. As a musician, Richard found himself having public transit escapades from upper Manhattan to Brooklyn because all the venues he wanted to visit are in the ‘Wick or the ‘Burg. Think about it. The L train is simply strung with hot concert spots like Death by Audio, Shea Stadium and or that place off Jefferson that used to be a storage facility. “Even though I was living [in Washington Heights], I wasn’t really hanging out in Manhattan. It’s a deadzone. There’s nothing for me, musically. My catch phrase actually is ‘Maybe Manhattan.’” (We both had a chuckle at that one. You gotta hand it to him. You really do).

When Richard first made the switch to north Brooklyn, he was living off the Montrose stop on the L, but then moved to Halsey for cheaper rent. Right now he’s only paying $500 for one bedroom in a two bedroom apartment. “Yeah it’s further, but there’s no downside really. If you’re expecting something glamorous, Halsey will let you down. But if you want something cheap, you have to make concessions.” While he says there’s nowhere really to go right off his stop in terms of bars, cafes and restaurants, he knows a lot of other people on Halsey, so for fun he’ll usually hang out at a friend’s place. “Other than that there’s really nothing to do. Even bodegas close by 10 p.m. Like I said, it’s not glamorous.”

Theresa D. of Hancock is quite content with Halsey. She has a three bedroom apartment where she also has an amazing redone backyard and entire basement to use as a practice space for her band. “I like that it’s a real neighborhood, not a summer camp like other areas off the L, like Morgan. The nightlife is a bit dry, but if we want to go out, we usually take the B60 to Morgan or Jefferson Street, and it’s only a 5 minute ride.” Theresa expressed that being close to her friends was a huge factor in deciding where to live, and most of her friends live off the L. She’s also able to feel like she can have an actual home in her current situation, which is in a brownstone, as opposed to 532 Johnson where she used to live, and said felt very temporary and a bit janky. I asked Theresa if she felt safer off Halsey versus 532 Johnson which is situated in a very desolate, industrial area. “532 Johnson was a bit weird because it’s desolate and near the DOE fund. Halsey is quiet in winter, but in the summer there’s a lot of parties and then a lot of cat-calling. But that can happen anywhere, and it’s a very family oriented neighborhood, so I guess it all depends.”

Santiago M. has been living off the Ridgewood side of Halsey for almost a year and feels very safe. He comes from a small town in New Mexico, so the residential feel of Ridgewood is actually comforting to him. “I can go home and feel relaxed. Bushwick is a little more rowdy than Ridgewood.” Santiago said that the selling point was definitely being off the L train. “I live close to the L and it’s a mainline, straight to the city.” As someone who works in film, Santiago finds himself all over New York for work, so the easy transfers on 14th Street make for a nice commute. While Santiago says there’s not much to do in general, there is a cool gallery called The Outpost in his neighborhood. “There’s not much else in terms of boutique places, but for general food it has everything you need. I can see more things opening up in the future though.”

Belen L, formerly of Summerfield Street, saw no upsides though. “I moved there because it was cheap. I thought it wasn’t that far, but didn’t realize how bad an extra four stops can be, especially when there’s nothing around you. There’s no bars, no cafes, nowhere to go. Every time I wanted to go somewhere I had to leave. And when you live in Ridgewood, none of your friends want to come visit you. There’s also smelly places where they have live chickens and bunnies you can butcher yourself. It stinks. And there’s no good grocery stores aside from a grubby Western Beef.” When I asked her if she ever hung out there while living there, she said, “No. Not once.” When I asked if she saw any benefit to living there, she said, “If you’re looking to have family and a boring place close to fun places, sure. Well, semi-close, anyway.”

Photo via Instagram user @bdgrant89

Photo via Instagram user @bdgrant89

So what we’ve gathered is, yes, Halsey means extra time on the train and, yes, it can be a little boring and not necessarily safer. But if you’re a north Brooklyn lover who needs an affordable pad in a real neighborhood with actual families and schools and stuff (and you have a good playlist for your commute), Halsey could be right for you. Think about that brownstone you’ve always wanted to sit on the stoop of during the summer like in Hey Arnold. You can actually have it in Ridgewood. And if Williamsburg is your farthest destination most of the time, things are still close. Well, semi-close. But even if you don’t plan on moving there, visit your friends who do. You could be hanging out in an awesome backyard like Theresa’s or getting to know people at the surrounding lofts like Richard does. And if you’re not going to even do that, at least consider investing in a place for when Halsey’s first bourgeois-dega opens up and the area is worth a flippin’ goldmine.

About Cat Agonis

To me, life is meant to be classy-trashy. Nothing’s better than bouncing from a rooftop terrace-soiree and rolling into a warehouse party in the same leopard-print dress. Chicken on the Hudson is my novel. If you want more I’m totally accessible. Get at me on Twitter and turn that follow button blue so I can get to know about you!

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  • Maria Gotay

    Fantastic Article!

  • steve

    I’m sorry but I really think you went in the wrong direction to find out where the “next neighborhood is”. Sure, it’s Ridgewood but the heart of Ridgewood is found nowhere near Halsey.
    Over the past 3 years, I’ve seen most of the gentrification stretch more out along the M line. With the arrival of Norma’s, live shows at Caskey’s Bar on Fresh Pond, and Ridgewood Market, there is a growing community here that can’t be represented by the comparatively desolate area around the Halsey St stop.
    Living on the edge (of Queens and Brooklyn) is not living on the edge in any respect past that. In fact, the border is 2 blocks away from the Jefferson St. stop.

    • B

      Moreover, I don’t think Ridgewood is going to be “hip” or “gentrify”– it is already a middle-class, stable neighborhood, plus it is in Queens.

    • Cat Agonis

      Hi Steve, thanks for your feedback. The aim of the article wasn’t to find out where “the next neighborhood is.” It was more to just discuss the area directly surrounding a particular subway stop (whether it’s the heart of Bushwick or Ridgewood or not) where many people are now moving to.

      You are right though–there certainly are many more things popping up along the M line. Very interesting to explore!

    • ridgewoodmeetup

      Thanks for the mention Steve!

  • rebecca

    A few reasons why I love living off the Halsey stop:

    1. Living 2 blocks from the Halsey L train means that my commute is only about 5-10 minutes longer than when I lived 7 blocks from the Graham stop, plus I generally can always get a seat in the morning if I need one.

    2. My three bedroom apartment has enough open common space to do somersaults across the floor; my landlord hasn’t raised the rent in three years.

    3. FYI : there are lots of grocery store spots if you want to walk to Myrtle/Forest. Yeah, Western Beef is sketchy, but I also find it lovably odd // lovably refusing to cave to some level of charm.

    4. Not having easy access to highly caffeinated coffee shops means that I am far more likely to make what I need at home. Forced into this life changing habit definitely has had a noticeable effect on my bank account.

    …… but then I’m 33 and quite happy to travel fifteen minutes to go to a show / see my friends / get a meal if it means that I can have some peace when I get home. I’m old! Moving to suburban L train is the natural order of things!

  • rebecca

    Halsey is great if you are 33 years old & have spent the last 7 years living in Williamsburg.

    My commute is faster since I am so close to the train & can usually always get a seat if I need one. My apartment is huge and my rent has stayed the same for 2 years.

    Buck up kids, if you’re in New York for the long haul you’re going to eventually want a little more space.

  • B

    Steve, points taken but it sounds like you are almost rooting for gentrification in Ridgewood.

    • steve

      Gentrification is probably one of the most debated topics in urban affairs. It’s a double-edged sword which involves economics, racism, culture, and crime. There are two sides to it. Am I a fan of all the effects of gentrification? No. I do see the benefits that it can have on a community though.

  • Tommy

    good article ,good interviews ,it went into a lot more of the basics and backed it up with actual interviews of people who live there..unlike that other article ‘a newbies guide to bushwick subway stops’..

  • Christina

    I’ve lived off the Halsey L for two years and seen it change a lot since then – just look at the selection in our bodega, Los Limones, which now carries craft beers and gelato and kale chips. A lot of people here seem to be complaining re. Grocery stores, but Food Bazaar at MyrtleWyckoff really isn’t that far or stop somewhere on your way home (ex I stop at Trader Joes and it’s just off the L too). You get a lot more space for cheap.
    It is good.

  • ridgewoodmeetup

    Hey Cat! If you want anymore info about Ridgewood, check out the

    Ridgewood Beat, Ridgefood, and Ridgewood Social

  • what.

    People have been living off the Halsey L (and further out) for years.

    But we are black, asian, latino and working class.

    So it’s sort of like no living human beings resided in these areas at all, until you showed up, right?

  • Jen G

    Just moved here from Greenpoint. Grew up in Middle Village – Queens. I love it here. People are nice. I feel safe. Its not gentrified and really cheap – or maybe just normal compared to other gentrified area. Its also oh-so-close to all the fun.
    This article is good. Only problem- the photo not of the L train – maybe it’s the J? I was confused because the L isn’t elevated. Great shot but confusing.

    • Cat Agonis

      So glad you liked it. I wrote the article, but asked BD to take and/or upload photos for it, so I’m not sure how they went about selecting the J train image. I agree that it’s a great shot though : )

  • Kirsten

    Just wanted to say that I really enjoy your articles. You’ve got a great voice!

  • Gary

    “Ridgewood is about the same on the crime scale as Bushwick.” Could this really be true? Even if you don’t consider the fact that the Ridgewood precinct covers four entire neighborhoods vs. the Bushwick precinct only covering one?

  • gail

    This is a great article because i think a lot of people are curious about the Halsey stop. I just bought condo on fresh pond road which is close to the M train in ridgewood but also a 10 minute walk to Halsey. Before i purchased, i checked out crime on spotcrime.com for the area and there was so little i was completely floored! I’m very surprised the area hasn’t really caught on yet because it has a similar vibe to greenpoint. Apparently all the polish and eastern europeans moved from greenpoint to Ridgewood and made it very nice indeed.

  • Lucas Trobo

    As a native Manhattanite who’s literally been driven out of his hometown by the “newbies” you are so concerned about, I’ve had to go all the way out to Halsey to be able to still stay where my family is. Please don’t come out here, because rising rents WILL come with you. Once this community also gets destroyed I will be economically exiled from the city alltogether. Every one of you that comes is kicking out an old black grandma with kids, or a working class person. Have some dignity and respect. The community DOES NOT WANT YOU HERE. Anyone who tells you different stands to gain something from it.



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